Showing posts with label michael miano. Show all posts
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Thursday, November 14, 2013

The Man Full Preterists Hate the Most

While in June of 2010, then full preterist circuit speaker, Sam Frost said that I am "one of the most abhorred persons in the history of full preterism, it is now 2013-2014 and that honorable title has been passed to a new recipient. There is a fellow who has been a full preterist since the early years of the movement...that's the 1970 for you newbies. Because of the nature of his federal work, he chooses to use an alias. He currently uses the name "Rivers Of Eden" He consistently posts under this name so there is no attempt to hide his identity otherwise. Hey, it's not like he was a seminary president who went on a full preterist site using the name "superpreterist" and told his friends not to tell anyone it was him...oh yeah, that was Kenneth Talbot, the fraud of frauds (that's for you Jason Bradfield, you need a post to steal and repost on your cowardly site). Anyhow, back to the point.

WHY? 
Why do full preterists hate this guy so much? Well, first off, let me demonstrate the kind of hate they show him.  Full Pret, Dave Green often calls Rivers' "Rivers of Evil". (ref)  Although I'm not certain who first coined this name for Rivers, Green's buddy and fellow full pret, Michael Sullivan claimed it was "seasoned" full preterist, Larry Siegle. (ref)

Another fellow on Facebook, presumably a full pret named Joe Simpson even took to the Vaduva-Bradfieldesque approach of trying to elicit violence against Rivers by posting over and over, in what state Rivers supposedly lives.  How is this relevant? It is just bully tactics to try to get someone to shut up.  I've had bullies like Phil Nassens do this to me before, even posting the city where I live and where my daughter went to school.  Why?

But as for the reason these folks hate Rivers so much; it is because he is demonstrating what full preterism is if applied consistently. And if applied consistently, full preterism destroys a person's faith...or at least their ability to claim they are Christian in any historical sense.

CONSISTENT FULL PRETERISM 
To understand what is meant by consistently applied full preterism we must understand full preterism premises


  • It's all about audience relevancy
  • All is fulfilled


These two points sum up, beyond just "Jesus already came back" what it means to not only be a full preterist but how to think like a person who can become or is a full preterist.

Friday, January 11, 2013

3rd Generation Full Preterist: Michael Miano -- Interview

In this 70 minute podcast, we speak with Michael Miano from freakedoutmovement.com. Miano has the interesting background of having been a gang member and having spent some time in prison. We discuss his life before and after Christianity and his eventual adoption of the theological perspective called Full Preterism. He recently debated ex-Full Preterist, Sam Frost and discusses that event.
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*my purpose in this interview was simply to have Mr. Miano introduce himself and give a little background. It was not my purpose to "debate" anything he said.

Sunday, November 11, 2012

Preterist Debate: New Blood VS Washed Up Has Been

Yeah, well the title of this article is meant to be a little humorous. The debate is between Full Preterist Michael Miano and egotistical, panderer and pretended ex-Full Preterist Sam Frost.

Some wonder why Frost wants to debate Miano; not that Miano is chump-change but Frost always thinks so highly of himself, it's surprising that Frost wouldn't go after bigger fish. Some have speculated it is because Frost wants to test out his arguments against...to use Frost's type of speech...an "ahem, uneducated non-scholar". Miano fully admits he doesn't have all the background Frost does; yet ironically all of Frost's "ahem" -- seminary education didn't keep him from falling into what he now considers a very bad heresy. Matter of fact, the reason I say he is only a pretended ex-Full Preterist, is because there is every indication that Frost simply wants to dictate how Full Preterism is presented and since he couldn't do that from within the movement; he has taken the opportunity to act like he wrote off the movement, simply to turn around and offer another form of Full Preterism called "Realized Preterism".

Anyhow the debate should be interesting to watch. The debate is FREE

WHEN: Jan 5th 2012, 12pm-4pm
WHERE: Fort Myers Villas Civic Association 2306 Sunrise Boulevard, Fort Myers, Florida 33907
CONTACT: http://freakedoutmovement.com/CONTACT.html