Tuesday, January 29, 2013

Gary DeMar Wants You to be a Full Preterist

Gary DeMar of AmericanVision.com is well known not only for his work AGAINST Dispensationalism, but for his work in promoting Preterism. The problem is, DeMar is credited with creating more Full Preterists than any "leader" within the Full Preterist movement.  When confronted about this, DeMar has said that he is not responsible for people taking his teaching to conclusions he does not intend.  However, I wonder how that works if say a supposed Christian minister's arguments repeatedly lead people to Mormonism. Doesn't that minister have some obligation to at least clarify what he is saying and figure out why so many people are supposedly concluding something he did not intend?

Further, DeMar has many glaring examples of not being just an innocent bystander whose work has been misunderstood. DeMar has spoken at Full Preterist conferences with no distinction that Full Preterism has any issues. DeMar has been/is a member on several Full Preterist forums where he posts without any distinction that anything is different between his supposed Partial-Preterism and the Full Preterist hosts.  But of all the things, it is DeMar's view of the Christian eschatological situation that has bred so many Full Preterists...and rightly so for the Full Preterists who follow DeMar's views.

DEMAR THINKS CHRISTIAN ESCHATOLOGY IS GARBLED MESS

The premise by Partial-Preterists like DeMar that drives a person straight into Full Preterism is best cited by one of DeMar's own comments:


"... I'm willing to listen to what others say on an issue, especially on eschatology since it's been a garbled mess for centuries. It's conceivable that so-called eschatological heretics are seeing something I'm not seeing. They're willing to take the risk. Many are not." -- source


Now, think about that for a moment. If Christian eschatology has really been a "garbled mess", then Full Preterists by ALL MEANS should be at the table to help straighten it out. After all, the present "scholars" such as DeMar are part and parcel of the "scholars" who for centuries have been teaching this supposed "garbled mess".  Why should ANYONE turn to these "scholars" who couldn't get it right? Who says that they got it right now?

Thursday, January 17, 2013

Do Full Preterists Have Creeds?




Since, theologically speaking a "creed" is merely a stated belief or interpretation on some religious claim; Full Preterists do in FACT "creedalize" every time they write a book or even publish an article or podcast, or mp3 about what they believe.  But perhaps the most specific Full Preterist creed comes in the form of a document released in 2001. The document was penned by several Full Preterists but namely John Noe. It is called The 9.5 Theses for the Next Reformation -- playing on the 95 points that Martin Luther posed to the Roman Catholic Church in 1517.

The 9.5 Theses in effect the most unified position of Full Preterism to date because it is signed by many of the main leaders of the movement.

John Noe, Don Preston, Ed Stevens, David Curtis and William Bell just to mention a few.

If ever, there was a document that could be pointed to that we could say represents the Full Preterist "creed", this document is it.

Friday, January 11, 2013

3rd Generation Full Preterist: Michael Miano -- Interview

In this 70 minute podcast, we speak with Michael Miano from freakedoutmovement.com. Miano has the interesting background of having been a gang member and having spent some time in prison. We discuss his life before and after Christianity and his eventual adoption of the theological perspective called Full Preterism. He recently debated ex-Full Preterist, Sam Frost and discusses that event.
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*my purpose in this interview was simply to have Mr. Miano introduce himself and give a little background. It was not my purpose to "debate" anything he said.

Thursday, January 3, 2013

Preterism Update: 2012 Review



Well, another year behind and a new one ahead. As for those interested in what is happening with the "Preterist Movement" (both the Partial-Preterists and the Full Preterists), there is not too many places where you can find out any information. It seems as the sites once considered on the cutting edge of Preterism are now places where people post spoof videos or themselves dancing to chicken songs. (I kid you not; look at what Dee Dee Warren posted -- really?? -- then shortly after that, she posted pics of her as a kid on Santa's lap compared to her as an adult in a Xena Warrior princess get up -- see it).  This is a good sign that Partial-Preterism and Full Preterism are on their last legs.

Well, enough of that. You want to know what is going on right? I'll give it to you straight, whether you buddy up with me or not :-).