Thursday, February 17, 2011

Assessing the Jason and Sam Show

Jason Bradfield and Sam Frost, long time hyperpreterists have claimed to recanted the heresy but many doubt that at least Frost has really left the movement. What follows is the first podcast done by Jason and Sam AFTER they supposedly gave up "full preterism". I assess what they ACTUALLY say on the podcast and have ACTUALLY said in the past. Listen to this 40 minute podcast here:



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Wednesday, February 9, 2011

AD70.net And Preterist Hypocrisy

The 3rd in a series of podcasts with Hyper/Full Preterist 'Rivers of Eden' often, reluctantly considered the most consistent advocate of the Hyper/Full Preterist view. Rivers of Eden (ROE), discusses how the hyperpreterist movement, and especially AD70.net has hypocritically taken actions to silence his input into the community.

Listen to this podcast as it touches on the current state within the 'preterist movement'.

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River's/ROE welcomes continued interaction.
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REFERENCES

Other Podcasts in this series
  1. The Consistent Conclusions of Full/Hyperpreterism
  2. The Martin Luther of Hyperpreterism: Rivers Responds

Mike Loomis quotes:
"Over the last number of months I personally came very close to embracing this position. I didn’t just flirt with it…I quite literally put it on to see if it would fit. I was even beginning to tell people that I was sure it was right...Seriously…I was ready to call myself a Hyper-Preteristi. Everything fit in the box very well. No more questions unanswered. But then the questions began to arise as I started considering the implications of this position. And then there is the question of what the universal Church has been doing for the last 2000 years. Have we been worshiping a god that has no interest outside the tribes of Israel?...If anyone wants to pursue HP that is fine. But it scared the hell out of me....If it’s true…No matter how much good has come from 2000 years of Church history…It’s all been based on a false premise. ROE is a good friend. I’ve learned a lot from him. However…I think he has gone too far." -- source

"What he is suggesting might not be an easy pill to swallow and it might not even be the right one…But that doesn’t change the fact that he has been and continues to allow the Word to direct him wherever the truth might lead.

And the one thing I appreciate the most about him is that his posts are supported solely by scripture. No tradition…No creeds…Just the scriptures interpreting themselves and utilizing the original languages in support of his views...I want to follow the Truth wherever it may lead me. I want to test all things. Whether the journey is comfortable or not…The Truth has nothing to fear from honest investigation." -- source